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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 3, 2010 11:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today's Barn Burner...or Cube Killer, whichever (not TDIH)

I suspect our memories have rewritten a lot of what we experienced. Especially nowdays, with all the input from electronic sources that we did not have at the time. I imagine some of us have constructed entire scenarios in our minds based on things here at the archive that aren't the way it seemed to us at the time at all.
sorry to get all metaphysical.

I, for one, don't claim to remember a damn thing about the shows. I remember the friends I was with, who drove, where we went to eat, that sort of thing. I only know what shows I must have seen from reconstructing it with the help of friends and the archive. A lot of it comes down to which boyfriend I was with. If I remember so-and-so being there, then it couldn't have been November 'cus we broke up in October. That sort of thing.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Nov 3, 2010 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today's Barn Burner...or Cube Killer, whichever (not TDIH)

I agree with you only so far - memory is a famously unreliable thing - but there are certain things that are branded on my mind, and then also the entire year of 1980, 7-8 shows from which I remember only one Scarlet-Fire from Portland ME in the spring. (They played Comes A Time the night before in Hartford, perhaps the only time I ever saw it. Do I remember that? No, I don't.)

I saw like ten shows on this spring 82 tour, and the two nights in Hartford are the only ones I really remember. Of course, we also had tapes of these shows within a few weeks, so perhaps these memories never had a chance to fade. Ditto Fall '82 - we had tapes of 09/17 Portland 09/20&21 MSG almost immediately, and played the hell out of them. I must have listened to them all at least dozens of times on tape in the 80's and 90's

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 3, 2010 11:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today's Barn Burner...or Cube Killer, whichever (not TDIH)

I believe I was at both those Hartford shows.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 3, 2010 12:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today's Barn Burner...or Cube Killer, whichever (not TDIH)

In this hobbit town office park that is our native state,I wonder how far apart we grew up from each other.You would have been one of the older girls laughing in a small group at the boys or some girls dress ,while I was trying to figure out how to work the slide.Complete with nose juice running down my face and a diaper in need of attention.You didn't kick me off the little merry -go-round so you and your friends could sit down,did you?

btw-I punctuated properly.I think.I tried.I smiled.(... but smile,smile..)One day only special.How do you people do it like this?Everything is so scrunched up.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 3, 2010 6:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today's Barn Burner...or Cube Killer, whichever (not TDIH)

I grew up in Waterford. Next to New London. My parents still live there (and as you know I'm often there lately ...)

Yeah, I think I'm a few years older than you but I definitely didn't push you off the slide :)

"btw-I punctuated properly.I think.I tried.I smiled.(... but smile,smile..)One day only special.How do you people do it like this?Everything is so scrunched up."

LOL, I am really not still on your case about punctuation, but you know, it *does* look scrunched up that way because you have no space after the punctuation. See, I'm going to copy it with proper punctuation:

but smile, smile ...) One day only special. How do you people do it like this? Everything is so scrunched up.

Doesn't that look better? You have some weird thing about space - you want a *lot* of spaces. Which is funny because I frequently take double spaces out of people's documents, I rarely encounter someone who wants *fewer* spaces. (Us old folk who learned to type before word processors were taught to put in two spaces after a period, and many can't seem to break this habit. This is not a problem for you Micah ...)



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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 3, 2010 10:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today's Barn Burner...or Cube Killer, whichever (not TDIH)

I grew up in Higganum , south of Middletown . I worked at Seaside before the state shut it down , so I have been in your town often . Even lived in New London for a short time .... the Crystal Mall . My mom still lives in H. at the farm .
That drive up must get real taxing around Norwalk and be difficult to Lyme . I'm feel for you for what you go through , in both journey and destination .

Yeah , the example does look better the proper way . It's a small funny , my 'difficulty' , so I take no offense at all . It's kinda cool to have a real editor , even if but a sentence . I did write on a typewriter until 1993 . My Eng. & Lit. teachers in H.S. were old school and really good . Lucky .

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 4, 2010 5:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today's Barn Burner...or Cube Killer, whichever (not TDIH)

Probably one of those six degrees of separation things ... we probably know people in common. My friend's mother was a director at Seaside. I volunteered there off and on but never worked there. I worked for (well, I've actually forgotten the name of the agency now) - anyway a group home for disabled adults in Branford (agency was based in Guilford) and a halfway house in Middletown (Gilead House). And I spent four years in Middletown (actually closer to five), then New Haven.

The drive, oh, by Norwalk the worst is past. It's going thru NYC that's stressful ... the peaceful little towns of the Connecticut shoreline are nuthin'!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 3, 2010 10:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today's Barn Burner...or Cube Killer, whichever (not TDIH)

It wasn't until I found Deadnet and the archives that I really could say with any reasonable certainty which shows I'd attended. (Never saved ticket stubs or had a Deadbase.) It was a fun detective game to try to track down actual dates, but also weird, because sometimes I'd remember a particular song from a particular venue, in roughly a particular year, and ... bingo ... there it would be! (Alternately, I might remember absolutely nothing except driving somewhere.)

But when I do recall the music vividly, it's such a surreal experience to listen 30 years later to a song you remember, and know you were there, and maybe even remember what was going through your head ... it's like getting in a time machine and sort of hovering there and watching a younger self. Strange.

Bizarrely, one of the first tunes I have a vivid memory of hearing was a Donna one. I remember her coming forward and singing a solo, and it had to be From the Heart of Me, 11/18/78. Which was apparently the night Jerry met Manasha, when she gave him a pumpkin from the audience or something. Not that I remember any pumpkins.

On the archives, at the end of the song you actually hear the band talking about what to play and getting pissed and cussing each other out before deciding on "chaquitas on the river" (or so it sounds.) I must say I didn't catch that little interaction that night!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-11-18.sbd.miller.81131.sbeok.flac16

That was my 3rd show. (Was seeing the whole Uptown run.) I also think I remember the Jack Straw, cuz that's when I was walking in that night, and it was interesting to me that they'd do such a slow opener and then follow it with Candyman, which was also so slow ... I was obviously still new to things!

This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2010-11-04 05:25:45